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randomnameless · 11 months ago
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I did Crimson Flower first in my Three Houses run and... honestly, Edelgard wasn't even remotely as convincing to me to join her as the fact I'd get to fuck Jeritza.
Beresu I've chosen for the job grew up in Ardesian Empire and I've definitely leaned into Ashen Demon idea as much as possible, so what I've got was a merciless butcher, not a revolutionary firebrand. I expected Edelgard to be this scary red emperor with the grand ideas that justify the means, I expected the vibe of Nine Inch Nails' Survivalism, but instead she's an absolute dork and Hubert does everything morally dubious for her. It reminded me of Corrin in Fates on Nohr path and it definitely did not endear me to her.
Generally speaking the only interesting bits were Jeritza (love this man, best girl) and... maybe Hubert. Honestly speaking, with the way Hubert acts I expected him to be a Flame Emperor after seeing Edelgard. I just genuinely don't get how Crimson Flower Edelgard can be even remotely convincing - she's scary in White Clouds at times, but then it's nothing but dork, dork, dork, Beresu I hate rats, Beresu my path is stained in blood despite the fact I can barely reach any enemy in my automatic promotes and Hubert, Jeritza and you kill most of the enemies instead.
She's idealistic, but it's never really shown how much she's willing to mow down people for her ideals - we don't see destruction, we don't see any particular drama. The only bits closest to it were me deliberately not recruiting any non-BE students aside from Mercedes, Anette, Marianne and Lorenz. Killing these students felt like something, but it isn't really enough and it's entirely optional.
she's scary in White Clouds at times, but then it's nothing but dork, dork, dork, Beresu I hate rats, Beresu my path is stained in blood despite the fact I can barely reach any enemy in my automatic promotes and Hubert, Jeritza and you kill most of the enemies instead
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I don't remember having the same movement issues with Hector when he was promoted, but damn if Supreme Leader's prf class was a nightmare, she was behind people and didn't have enough def to act as a suitable tank - she's supposed to be a player phase unit, but she doesn't have the mov stat to do so...
Granted, it was my first run too, so I missed on the heron festival event and didn't get a dancer :( but I played it before Emile was patched in, and, in a way, I thought it was on purpose - Supreme Leader says she'll explain everything to Billy later on, when they see Emile fighting with them when the BESF attacks the Monastery, and nothing is ever explained post TS - much like how the war was supposed to get rid of Rhea because she has scales, but come the post TS and we're not embarking on the MAGA ride, to conquer Fodlan!
Corn at least, in Conquest, spent more time angsting at the casualties and blood shed - to the point some players found it uncomfortable - Corn notable tried to save people or reacts strongly when Scarlet is Hans'd (just like Sakura's army? I don't remember that well).
It's less artificial than Supreme Leader who only says this in some support lines, or when she's alone with you - her lines feels more like a compulsory thing to say, a box to tick, than a regular reaction. There's nothing similar to Corn's distress or at least gambit to try to spare the defeated soldiers, instead, we have a round of hypocrisy because Rhea BaD when she doesn't let people evacuate the city before turning it in a giant bbq - when we have Emile on our side and when other routes reveal the battle of the Monastery happens so fast after her declaration of war that the CoS doesn't have time to evacuate all of its residents (+Emile saying the grounds around the monastery are battlefields too) in the other routes.
Hubert is still the best part of CF, even if I sort of grew somehow interested at the students insulting Billy when they chop them off - sure my interest later died, but Judith's JP VA lit screaming and crying when Ignatz and Leonie died, Inoue!Rhea's lines delivery, everything bar the BESF itself managed to make the "we must kille people we knew sad uwus" hit closer to the mark than the onion scene, aka the one where Supreme Leader cries after beheading a defeated, and on his knees, Dimitri.
But I agree, it's almost if all the pathos that was supposed to be triggered by the "kill your students :'(" from the game went to the CF enemies, rather than to the other routes casualties.
"We killed Ferdie professor :("
Watch as I gave a fig, Ferdie dies in a map where he is fielded with a Demonic Beast iirc, aka a Feral One. If Ferdie doesn't see anything wrong fighting side by side with a Feral One and doesn't have the same circumstances Lorenz does (granted, even those circumstances are mushy) - especially since it's possible for Ferdie to defect since that's what he does in SS - I legit feel less figs that when we had to kill a retreating Judith, or an Ignatz or Leonie who were defending their homes - hell, even Hilda who, against all of her words and previous behaviour - finally puts her life on the line to protect someone.
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turboautismrobot · 6 months ago
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Hello! OK so I'm sorry if this is weird but I saw that post where you said "Anyone wants to hear me rant about Kokichi" I just wanted to say that, yes I want to hear lol
oh hi anon this is copy pasted from my notes app and i havent re read it in some weeks so excuse any weirdness lmao
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what the fuck does ultimate supreme leader even mean.
in drv3 the talents are at their most central to the plot, rantaro lies about his because he knows he'll be targeted for being the ultimate survivor of the previous game, maki lies about hers because she knows she wont be trusted with the title of ultimate assasin, part of shuichis character arc revolves around his insecurity over his ultimate detective talent, kibos comidic effect comes from him being an ultimate only in title, having his abilities as the ultimate robot be incredibly and sometimes even below average, we see the cast receive their talents at the start of the game, the fake narrative has them give their talents up in protest of the gofer project, the fiction plot twist places emphasis on their talents and struggles around them being scripted and used to dehumanize them into living fictional characters, there are whole talent labs for the students of the ultimate academy for gifted juveniles
even in previous games where the talents arent such big points theyre still pretty importaint, hajimes entire conflict coming from the fact that hes talentless and went trough so much societal pressure he accepted being lobotimized just to have something he can call special, nagito even poking fun at him for being from the reserve course
looking purely at antagonists nagitos shines with his talent, the ultimate lucky student title being given to him in a raffle to select a random talentless person to join the academy, tying into his inferiority complex. the title of ultimate luck also ties into the luck cycle that dictates and completly ruined his life, his luck is also used for plot reasons when he survives his plan to murder himself and gets twogami killed instead, when he gets a soundproof room in ch4 which alongside sonias is used to point out the holes in gundhams story, to obtain the hopes peak file trough russian roulette, and having its last hurrah when he literally kills himself in order to have his luck rat out the traitor
but kokichis talent is utterly meaningless, not only is "ultimate supreme leader" a random bundle of words made incomprehensible by the addition of the adjective "supreme", that doesnt tell you anything about him, but we also never see his supposed leading skills utilized in the narrative, only being TOLD by his motive video that hes the leader of a SMALL gang, making the adjective "supreme" not only meaningless but nonsensical. his talent is so incredibly underutilized in the game that for most of it i was convinced he was lying about it and would be revealed to be the ultimate prankster or theif or even liar because those are skills he actually uses during the game, which would have made him a massive fucking hypocrite for ratting maki out which imo would have added intrest to his character
its an incredibly odd choice to make kokichis talent meaningless in my opinion considering that for most of the game hes the main antagonist and conflic creator, unlike the previous antag nagito who uses his luck to his favor at every chance he gets, kokichi doesnt do shit with his own talent, its completly meaningless to the narrative of v3 which again, is the game that emphasis the talents the most in the entire series (dr2 has an emphasis on them but its only brought up by nagitos admiration of his classmates and at the end of the game with the izuru reveal, unlike v3 which is focusing on the talents the entire duration of the game)
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vespertin-y · 3 years ago
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talentswap anon here. y'know what, im just gonna give a list of all the randomized talentswaps instead of crumbs. when it comes to hajime, I made up a new talent: counseling! he was thought to be one in a few ftes. I also gave new names to impostor, the new robot, and kiibo. so...
Sayaka Maizono, Ultimate Photographer Mukuro Ikusaba, Ultimate Supreme Leader Leon Kuwata, Ultimate Gymnast Chihiro Fujisaki, Ultimate Gambler Mondo Owada, Ultimate Team Manager Kiyotaka Ishimaru, Ultimate Inventor Hifumi Yamada, Ultimate Cook Celestia Ludenburg, Ultimate Traditional Dancer Sakura Ogami, Ultimate Swimming Pro Junko Enoshima, Ultimate Artist Byakuya Togami, Ultimate Lucky Student Kyoko Kirigiri, Ultimate Pianist Makoto Naegi, Ultimate Serial Killer Aoi Asahina, Ultimate Nurse Toko Fukawa, Ultimate Astronaut Yasuhiro Hagakure, Ultimate Tennis Pro Taro Suzuki (Impostor), Ultimate Counselor Teruteru Hanamura, Ultimate Fanfic Creator Mahiru Koizumi, Ultimate Assassin Peko Pekoyama, Ultimate Maid Ibuki Mioda, Ultimate Cosplayer Hiyoko Saionji, Ultimate Entomologist Mikan Tsumiki, Ultimate Programmer Nekomaru Nidai, Ultimate Swordsman Gundham Tanaka, Ultimate Baseball Star Nagito Komaeda, Ultimate Musician Chiaki Nanami, Ultimate Breeder Akane Owari, Ultimate Princess Sonia Nevermind, Ultimate Moral Compass Kazuichi Soda, Ultimate Aikido Master Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu, Ultimate Anthropologist Hajime Hinata, Ultimate Impostor Rantaro Amami, Ultimate Mechanic Kaede Akamatsu, Ultimate Adventurer Ryoma Hoshi, Ultimate Clairvoyant Kirumi Tojo, Ultimate Gamer Angie Yonaga, Ultimate Fashionista Tenko Chabashira, Ultimate Yakuza Korekiyo Shinguji, Ultimate Pop Sensation Miu Iruma, Ultimate Writing Prodigy Gonta Gokuhara, Ultimate Biker Gang Leader Kokichi Oma, Ultimate Martial Artist Kaito Momota, Ultimate Detective Tsumugi Shirogane, Ultimate Soldier Tetsuya Iidabashi (Kiibo), Ultimate Magician M4-K1 (Maki Harukawa), Ultimate Robot Himiko Yumeno, Ultimate Affluent Progeny Shuichi Saihara, Ultimate Survivor (you can decide whether this talent is related to killing games or plain old physical durability where he's just impossible to kill)
OH WOW THAT IS A LOT
it's definitely too many to talk about all of them, lol, so i'll just point out the ones that interest me most:
-ultimate leader mukuro...even in IF mukuro is a character defined entirely by her undying loyalty to her leader, so i can’t even imagine what she’d be like without it...fascinating though
-team manager mondo: just his canon talent but with less motorcycles
-cook hifumi,,,this one is significantly funnier if he sticks to his canon diet of garbage
-entomologist hiyoko...she’s rejected violence and become friends with mr ant...touching.
-swordsman nekomaru. i want him to stab me.
-gamer kirumi. this one is extremely funny to me specifically because of that one anthology panel where she says she had to quit gatcha games because she’d pull for SS cards all night long. maybe gatcha is her weakness like dating sims are for chiaki...?
-writer miu. what the fuck is she writing. take that pen away from her right now.
-biker gonta. No The Fuck He Isn’t.
-robot maki. a military project i bet...poor girl.
-survivor shuichi. i prefer this one if it’s related to the killing games...my poor boy is so TIRED of solving murders let him rest :(
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pan-inc · 4 years ago
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Hi hi Mods! Could I get the male antagonists and Monaca with a selective mute, gender neutral, reader? Maybe even when the reader talks to them using their voice for the first time? Thank you!
  Hi Anon! I don’t know how selective mutism works but I tried doing my research and I hope this pleases you! Enjoy!
  Nagito has been getting a lot of love lol, I’m very happy with the energy we have created in the studio this month today
-Mod Rantaro
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  Byakuya Togami
  He probably didn’t even notice you existed at first.
  When you didn’t talk to him, he thought you already had something against him.
  So obviously he had something against you too.
  When someone probably Makoto or Kyoko speaks up for you to let him know that you’re mute he calms himself a bit.
  Only a bit tho, he still despises you.
  He does get to know you better when you get together.
  Including learning about some of your trauma.
  So he does his absolute best to continue hiding your relationship with him while also respecting your trauma.
  He doesn’t mind carrying around an extra pencil/pen and notepad for you, but he still tries learning basic sign language for you two to be able to communicate quicker.
  And he definitely hires a translator to follow you around at times.
  He’s perfectly fine with you not talking with him, he can wait until you feel comfortable.
  But he got very suspicious at times when you stayed out for a long period of time, forgetting about how close the two of you had gotten and how you told him that you’ll feel comfortable talking with him the closer you get.
  He had no clue you were going to speech therapy and was wondering why you were using more money than usual while you were gone.
  And the day you told him you wanted to talk with him about something he got very concerned.
  He didn’t expect you to verbally tell him that you love him and were very thankful that he waited for you to get comfortable
  He almost cried in front of you
  Yeah, almost.
Nagito Komeada
(Warning: Mentions Of Pills & Su1cide)  
  He had just thought that you didn’t want to associate with trash like him
  But when he found out you just don’t like being near people because they expect you to talk, he was happy it wasn’t just him
  You didn’t like how he talked bad about himself, so you taught him some sign language so you can tell him off and say how great he is without talking.
  He also really enjoys you two being able to easily communicate without most other people knowing what you two are talking about.
  One day you asked him to bring you to a pharmacy. He didn’t know why since he already had all his medication and medication for if either of you are sick or in pain, but he brought you anyways without any questions or a debate.
  And he didn’t ask any questions when you got there, he didn’t think it was any of his business as trash.
  But he was also concerned that his bad luck had taken a toll on you and made you sad to the point of wanting to end it all, so he asked.
  ‘I want to get my mutism fixed, and my doctor recommended taking some meds along with my voice training.’ You sign with a smile.
  He’s never felt more happy.
  You were finally comfortable enough with overcoming the despair of your past!
  And after a bit of taking medicine, vocal training, and endless support from Nagito, you spoke to him for the first time at the end of one of your dates.
  He 100% cried.
Kokichi Ouma
  Nishishi, do you really think you can hide your lies by not speaking?
  Well the Ultimate Supreme Leader takes your challenge!
  Kokichi that’s not how it works.
  You have to get someone to explain to him that you aren’t trying to challenge him and you just don’t talk
  But he still tries to get you to talk to him a lot.
  He tries literally anything.
  Scaring you, surprising you, making you happy, making you upset.
  Nothing worked though, and he was really disappointed.
  And once you two became a couple, he got more freedom to what he could do to get you to speak.
  But still, nothing worked.
  He eventually accepts this cruel fate of not being able to hear his S/O’s voice and tones the begging down a bit.
  He probably tries learning sign language for you, but eventually gives up and sticks to reading what you need.
  When you start secretly going to speech therapy he feels really hurt that you stopped spending time with him.
  And so he sends DICE to figure out where you’re going without him.
  But then regrets it because he realized he ruined a big secret you were working so hard on.
  So when you come up to him saying you need to talk with him he’s pretty sure he knows what you’re talking about.
  But it still warms his heart when he hears what you worked so hard on telling him. It was a simple “I love you, Kokichi” but it still meant so much to him.
  “Nishishi! I already knew that S/O! I also knew what you were working on while you *sniff* left me alone for so long” He cries out, faking it, but he just wanted it to seem less believable.
  You roll your eyes at him in a ‘Sure you did’ way, making him smile that you didn’t know he actually spoiled your secret to himself.
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  Monaca Towa
  Monaca doesn’t like being denied what she wants.
  So when she was told you don’t want to speak, even to her, she got quite upset.
  But to fulfill her wish becoming Big Sis Junko’s successor, she accepted the fact that one of the results of your trauma was not talking
  The closer she got to you, the more she fell for you, despite you not giving her everything she wants.
  And you may have gotten a lot more comfortable and happier around her.
  One day, she found you taking some sort of medication.
  Which she didn’t like. Not. One. Bit. She didn’t give you that, your parents did before Masaru killed them.
  So she rolls over to you, trying to keep her anger under control.
  “S/O?~ Monaca thought you got rid of everything the adults gave you!~”
  You jump slightly at the sudden voice and almost drop the small capsule of pills, “Oh, I didn’t mean including things for my health. My doctor said that these pills were something that can help with my voice, see?”
  Monaca stays silent, shocked that she had finally heard your voice, and so out of the blue. It was quite scratchy due to the long amount of time not speaking, but she still found it incredibly nice.
  And she was incredibly happy you finally spoke to her.
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solohux · 5 years ago
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anonymous submitted: An Anon's thoughts regarding Hux in TROS
:( Hux was done so dirty in TROS! He only has what, three minutes of screen-time? Oh and he’s now suddenly feeding The Resistance information because… he just hates Kylo THAT much apparently? I’m all for Hux being petty, but I honestly would’ve expected him to organize a coup against Kylo rather then betray the only life he’s ever known and 100% believes in?!
It’s just a weird take and I’m wondering if it was only done that way to get Hux out of the picture as quickly as possible, so Pryde could take his place? Which in itself is also quite strange considering Pryde… barely did anything and frankly what little he did do could've easily been accomplished by Hux.
Pryde’s character just seemed to be “there” for the sake of being there. And worst of all, he’s not the only character in the movie who feels like that! Ugh, I swear to god that TROS introduced more narratively unnecessary characters than TLJ did! 
Alright, but now for some positivity!
Admittedly I did like that Hux was able to take down three Stormtroopers before any of them had a chance to fire a single shot against them… Although I would’ve liked to have actually SEEN him do that and not just have it occur off-screen.
I was also amused by everyone’s reaction to him revealing himself to be the spy… and my Gingerpilot heart may have been squeeing the entire time because hey, he and Poe got a chance to interact again!  
This also might sound weird, but I also kind of like how Hux’s death was done? Yeah sure, Pryde did shoot him in the chest at nearly point blank range… but I think theirs enough wiggle room for some ambiguity regarding whether Hux actually died!
I realize that the line Pryde said immediately afterwards “Tell the Supreme Leader that I found our spy.” (Or something along those lines anyway) was probably intended to imply that Pryde was going to tell Kylo that Hux was the spy, but not to worry about any further leaks since he killed him. 
BUT! One can also infer that Pryde meant to tell Kylo that Hux is the spy, but not to worry about any further leaks since he’s neutralized him for Kylo to deal with at his leisure! Yep, I think that one can make a reasonable enough argument that Pryde merely STUNNED Hux in that scene! Not kill him!
Lol, which bursts the door right open for ways for Hux to survive the rest of the movie. Because I’m sure Hux is crafty enough to escape from any kind of cell Pryde would have him locked up in…. Or perhaps he still has officers loyal to him but not to Pryde or Kylo, officers who wouldn’t want their General to be executed…. 
I’m sure you get what I mean.
Anyway, the only other thing I liked was Finn shooting Hux in the knee and not the shoulder like Hux requested him to do. Lol, as much as I love Hux, he’s still responsible for making Finn’s childhood presumably horrible and since I rather like Finn, seeing him get to injury Hux was satisfying.  
But yeah, the good doesn’t really out-weight the bad when it comes to TROS for me imho. But I think I’ve rambled enough, hope to hear your thoughts on the film as well!
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makeste · 5 years ago
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BnHA Chapter 240: PLIFF
Previously on BnHA: Shigaraki “Thanos” Tomura gleefully reduced an entire city to dust while laughing maniacally. You know, villain things. He almost turned Re-Destro to dust as well, but Re-Destro got around that by chopping off his own legs. Like it was no big. I still haven’t quite managed to process that yet. Anyway, so everyone was real impressed by Tomura at this point, because how could you not be, and to sum things up, Re-Destro basically accepted him as his lord and savior and handed the Meta Liberation Army over to him. So now Shigaraki Tomura, noted crazy person and heir to All for One’s empire, who has just upgraded his quirk so as to be able to destroy basically anything within an unknown range without even having to touch the thing directly, and who has also pledged to destroy the entire world, has an army. And he also has Gigantomachia, who was watching him all hearts-in-eyes while he did his thing. So all in all this has been a very productive arc for the League of Villains. And meanwhile, the League of Everyone Else may want to think about changing their name to “League of People About To Be Incredibly Fucking Screwed.”
Today on BnHA: The League of Villains, in what is clearly the best rebranding move since New Coke, renames itself the “Paranormal Liberation Front”, a.k.a. PLF, a.k.a. PLIFF because that’s what it instantly became in my head and you can’t stop me. Among PLIFF’s Finest is newly initiated member Hawks, whose mystery bag is finally confirmed to have contained exactly what we all thought it was going to contain. I don’t even want to talk about that. I’m still in denial. But also weirdly thrilled. I’m terrible. Anyway, so Hawks is all “:) we’re fucked,” agreeing with the consensus the general fandom has come to over the past week, and palling around with his new best friend Dabi as he frantically tries to come up with some kind of plan. Maybe the heroes can try rebranding themselves as “the Supernatural Emancipation Cavalry.” That wouldn’t really solve anything, but it’d be funny to watch the villains come to realize they’re being mocked. Sorry but y’all brought this on yourselves.
(All comments are my unspoiled reactions from my initial readthrough of the chapter. I did a quick edit for grammar and clarity immediately afterward, and added a few ETAs in the process, but aside from that there are no changes.)  
so I received an ask from a very kind anon warning me to be careful of spoilers for this chapter. thank you, anon! rest assured that I have been very cautious, and am pleased to inform everyone that I’m diving in spoiler-free this week. so bring on your Kacchan hero names, your Best Jeanist heads, your new Deku quirks, and whatever other twists you want to toss my way, manga. but especially that first one. this arc has been fantastic, but now that it’s wrapping up, I miss my kids and I would like to check in with them soon. they grow up so fast and time is precious
so apparently the title for this chapter is “Power”, which could mean lots of things, but I imagine it’s not something that bodes well for our heroes. honestly does anything bode well for them at this point. they’re not having much luck on the boding front
oh cool, a time jump! so this is apparently now one week after “the deadly battle.” wow, way to sum everything up in the blandest terms possible while still being accurate. like, yeah, that is what it was, but somehow it doesn’t quite communicate the full magnitude of what actually went down, you know?
anyway so the town basically looks like it got hit by a fucking meteor
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new crack theory that a time-traveling Shigaraki Tomura is what actually killed the dinosaurs
wow would you fucking look at this
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I guess this is the BnHA version of “an unfortunate training exercise”
also I like how they didn’t think it would be believable that one sleepy boi could cause all of this destruction, so they amped it up to twenty fucking guys instead. sob. why did they even bother giving Tomura an army. he is an army
lol the bullshit continues
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“reporting to you live from Deika City, an innocent and wholesome country town in no way affiliated with an extreme right-wing quirk supremacist movement, where citizens recently found themselves victims of an entirely unprovoked attack by no fewer than twenty, and definitely more than six, villains. the brave citizens proceeded to fight them off, and definitely killed them all and didn’t surrender to them and elect their leader as their new god. also the president of Detnerat just happened to be there. just coincidentally. he definitely was not the one who instigated the entire thing. when asked for comment, Mr. Yotsubashi responded, quote, ‘nonsense, I’m no hero. would you call a man a hero just because he fought off an army of villains alone and selflessly sacrificed his own legs to ensure that justice prevailed? would you call that heroic? poppycosh. that’s just the kind of man I am. I wouldn’t call myself brave. ‘humble,’ maybe. ‘handsome’, perhaps. but a hero? no. I’m just an everyday, all-around good type of person, that’s all.’ so there you have it. truly a courageous figure. a gallant example of truly stellar fortitude and virtue. we need more Yotsubashi Rikiyas in these trying times. back to you, Jeff”
anyway, so the media in BnHA. fairly gullible, huh?
so now the report is concluding with a statement that the investigation is still ongoing. uh huh. damn they really got away scot-free with all this, huh
and we’re cutting to a close-up of sushi! oh my god. Compress have your dreams finally come true at last
yesssss oh my god. I’m so happy for him
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(ETA: on my second read-through I paid attention to try to see whether or not Compress had finally gotten a new robot arm, but it’s impossible to tell. he’s only using his right hand here, and later on when he goes on stage with the rest of them he’s wearing his usual trenchcoat and gloves. I’m just gonna assume he finally got the upgrade he wanted, though. nice to see you so content, Mister I-Ran-Around-A-Lot.)
excuse me, what, Dabi? he didn’t even do anything?? as opposed to you, who basically just set yourself on fire and glared at Frogurt for half a dozen chapters?? don’t hurt yourself climbing back down from that high horse you punk
lol what
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I don’t even have to scroll down to the rest of this page to immediately know this is some bullshit. she’s not dead. out of everyone in the League she’s probably third most important after Tomura and Mr. You-Didn’t-Even-Do-Anything above. her quirk is too plot-critical for her to actually be dead. you’re not gonna kill off the ONLY GIRL IN THE LEAGUE OF VILLAINS, either. Horikoshi who do you even think you’re fooling
ah, yep
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Togaaaaaaaaa omg. I’d hug you but you’d stab me. but I’m so happy to see you my precious baby girl
and it actually makes sense for Twice to be mourning the clone, though, and I’m glad they showed it. because he of all people understands that the clone is the person to at least some degree. like, it’s nice that he doesn’t just view them as disposable and he respects them. he’s so nice omfg
anyway so it looks like he’s back to being crazy though
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oh well, it was nice while it lasted. at least he doesn’t appear traumatized anymore. and he has a boyfriend now too. where is Giran anyway
now fucking Skeptic is walking in like he’s on the set of a fucking sitcom
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[canned audience laughter]
nice touch on the following page with Hanabata starting to refer to Re-Destro as “The Supreme...” before catching himself and amending it to just “Re-Destro”
oh wow
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damn, LoV, y’all went from poverty straight to the .01%. talk about an upgrade
oh my god there’s a secret passage
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oh my god it leads to a secret basement
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trying not to think about the last time we were in a secret villain basement. this isn’t like that. relax. that arc is over now. deep breaths
holy shit
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this is like the fucking Mines of Moria. complete with a Balrog. jesus christ
omg look who got himself a BRAND NEW SUIT AND TIE ENSEMBLE oh shiiit
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is that a fucking fur-lined coat. Shigaraki Tomura has officially upgraded to KHR Villain status. what a little shit. I adore you, you son of a bitch
and I thought he destroyed all the hands?? come on dude, I know it’s like your signature look, but I was hoping we were going in a different direction from here on out. ah well
wow, Horikoshi
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just once. just once I would like this man to leave a plothole unaddressed for more than one page. god I love this manga
anyway so they’re fully lampshading the fact that this one hand somehow miraculously survived, and they’re all “I guess it’s his trademark, huh?” yep, that’s right. his lewk. now be quiet, you two. which of us is doing the recap here
so now RD is up on stage showing off the weirdest fucking wheelchair I’ve ever seen, and singing Tomura’s praises
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it’s remarkable how quickly his ego adapted to his brand new role as head of Tomura’s PR. he almost seems to be enjoying this more than when he was the leader
oh shit??
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A NEW NAME?? oh my god. edge of my seat. can’t wait. take it away boys
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LOOOOOOOL what
sob this makes it sound like they do ghost investigations. is there a League of Villains Buzzfeed Unsolved AU. this is what happens when you put the otaku in charge of the name
just. why paranormal. they thought it sounded cool?? and am I really supposed to type out PLF and not pronounce it like “pliff” in my head moving forward?? yeah, that’s not happening. you guys are now PLIFF. congratulations
thank god they’ve still got Tomura to lend legitimacy to this whole ridiculous operation. god, there’s something I never thought I’d say. Tomura why are you now the part of the League -- excuse me, PLIFF -- that I actually take the most seriously. god
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y’all heard the man. whatever we want. this is happening. just remember kid, you gave me permission
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holy shit you guys is that motherfucking Carvel!?!? I was staring at the panel all “WHO IS THIS” and wondering if they’d somehow brought Kizuki back to life, oh my god. I’m fucking dying send help. he looks like Galaxy Express 999. my brain is short-circuiting
anyway so everyone is all HOORAY WE LOVE THIS and they’re all cheering
HOMBGLKDF
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DSLFKSHDLGK HEY BOY, HOW ARE YOU LIKING BEING A MEMBER OF THIS NEW HERE VILLAIN CULT. WHERE’S THE FUCKING BAG, HAWKS
SDFKSJDLFKSDLKFH A FLASHBACK AHHHHHH
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I CAN’T TURN THE PAGE OH GOD NO SOMEBODY ELSE DO IT
OH MOTHERFUCKING SHIT
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my jaw just. fucking. -- -----------
okay Hawks. fucking explain. how did you do it. is it a fake?? surely it’s not the real deal?? oh god, the memes have now become terribly real. I have no choice but to embrace this with even more stupid jokes and memes as a coping mechanism or I’m gonna lose it
but for real, they didn’t seriously do my boy Jeanist like that. Paramount Optimal Jeanist did not survive a point-blank attack from motherfucking All For One just to get shanked by Hawks so that he could get good with PLIFF, only to be, and I quote, “too late...!”
(ETA: and on readthrough #2, Dabi does indeed bring up the fact that this might not actually be Jeanist’s corpse. “setting aside the issue of whether he is who you say he is...” so even he acknowledges that shenanigans could be afoot.
but he seems convinced it’s a real body at the very least. though did it never occur to you that he could have just picked it up from the morgue, dude? that’s gonna be my go-to theory for now at any rate.)
is now a good time for me to bring up something I’ve been wondering about for a while, which is how Bakugou is going to take this? yes, Bakugou. “okay makeste, I know he’s your favorite and I know you miss him, but what kind of mental cartwheels are you doing in order to make this situation with Hawks and PLIFF somehow relate to Bakugou Katsuki, whom we last saw twenty fucking chapters ago, and who has absolutely nothing to do with this?”
well I’m glad you asked, and you see, it’s because (a) the internship, and (b) because we already know Katsuki blames himself for at least one hero’s downfall as a result of what happened in Kamino, and I could easily see him having a similar response to Best Jeanist’s injury and subsequent disappearance. like, we already know this shit is all over the news. and Bakugou knows Jeanist personally. and so now what with him being missing, I can’t help but wonder if he’ll blame himself again for being the reason Jeanist was there at Kamino, and lost a lung, and so forth
and I realize this tangent is coming sort of out of left field, but seeing as this arc is finally wrapping up, and we can expect to cut back to the U.A. kids again soon, I just figured I’d bring it up now, because we’ll see if I’m right or not shortly
anyway. so let’s get back on topic. best dead Jeanist. oh god
but it seems like it did, at least, finally convince Dabi of Hawks’s sincere villainous intentions. so we have that one minor win, I guess. congratulations Hawks, now you know about the secret villain basement and their new rebranding. was it worth it you bastard
oh shit. actually, maybe it was. because now he understands just how incredibly screwed they are sob
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so he doesn’t know for sure about the Noumu yet. so Tomura still has that little ace up his sleeve. fucking great
but him knowing about the Detnerat thing is big, though. so now the heroes know not to trust any of their equipment, or any of their lackeys like fucking Slidin’ Go. that’s something, at least
and you gotta love the whole “equal to, if not greater than” bit, sob. never in my life have I ever seen something so egregiously understated. “Shigaraki might be more powerful than the heroes at this point” yeah, you think!? god
holy shit Re-Destro calm the fuck down
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Tomura’s telling him to get lost, and he’s immediately making himself scarce lol. good riddance
and Tomura is now kneeling dramatically and pounding his fist on the floor. okay
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I take offense, sir. “League of Villains” had a timeless air about it. and more importantly, you couldn’t abbreviate it to the sound that someone makes when they plop down tiredly onto a couch
oh shit!!!!
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THIS LAST PAGE HAD BETTER BE A TERRIFYING PANEL OF THE HIGH END NOUMUS, OMG. I’M HOLDING MY BREATH
GODDAMMIT IT’S JUST ANOTHER SEXY CLOSEUP OF TOMURA’S FACE
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I mean, can you actually call it that at this point? can you actually “grant” something to someone if they already have more of it than they know what to do with?
but I mean, we know what he really means though, so fair enough
oh ffs now he’s saying “but first there’s something I’d like you to do for me” oh my god enough with these side quests!
he wants him to transport something, apparently. ARE YOU HATCHING SOME NEW SCHEME oh gosh
oh my god and meanwhile Hotwings is becoming canon right before our eyes holy shit
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of course!! he’s fucking thrilled!! everything is just!! so great!! right now!! :)!!!!!
oh my god Hawks
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“Endeavor, and everyone” I see what you did there kid
(ETA: and as far as I recall, Endeavor doesn’t even know about his undercover mission yet. I wonder how he’s going to react when he finds out. your adopted son is now best friends with your presumed-dead son! and in mortal danger omg.)
wow. wow. and that’s the end of the chapter. fucking shit
so! lots to process! Hawks really did it! the absolute madman!! and Dabi fucking loves him now, which is great, if you like things that inevitably end in tragedy. then that’s great for you. but otherwise I guess it’s not so great
so I wonder if our next arc will be the Undercover Hawks Antics arc, or if we’ll be getting back to Deku and the gang. I’m guessing the latter because it’s been a while, but it’s definitely exciting to see this particular plotline finally advancing and becoming more intricate
so basically I have no idea what to expect next week. which is amazing. I’m so fucking excited. now if Horikoshi could just leave us all a little pity disclaimer clarifying that no Jeanists were actually harmed in the making of this chapter and that it was all CGI or some shit, that would be great :/
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pacificwanderer · 5 years ago
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Whole bunch of anons about “leaks” etc. So, don’t read under the cut if that’s not your jam :) Also, as an aside, I’m going out on a limb here (not really lol) and am gonna say that I think the recent bout of “leaks” are actually speculation based on “toy leaks,” that is, the short phrases on the backs of packaging and nothing more (as in, sure, they’re leaks, but not “plot” leaks from some mole in DLF). Hence, the reason the “leaks” are all over the place and shift around everytime confirmed information (trailers, etc) gets released.
Many retailers get product for major releases weeks in advance (I know because I used to work at one lol), so if they have endcap resets coming up, they’ll get a whole big product display for a specific endcap. If they want displays around the store, they’ll send bulkouts with product. DLF has huge sections in major retailers, so the square footage they need to cover with product is insane. I can only imagine what gets shipped early to them (and I suspect staff who don’t have overnight crews end up doing a hell of a lot of setup prior to their major releases).
Case in point, Walmarts were selling TRoS toys up until a few days ago because they were mistakenly marked for sale (they’re not supposed to be out till Force Friday in October). Once they caught on, they shifted the skus back to whatever bucket they should have been in (and customers weren’t allowed to buy them after that point).
Anyways, makes a whole shitton of sense now that I think about it and is another great reason why you should always take “plot leaks” with a grain of salt because, for the most part, they’re just speculation masquerading as “leaks.” Contrary to popular belief, most people aren’t willing to lose their jobs to get internet points with random strangers. But taking a quick peek at the back of a retail box? That’s more believable (though can still get people fired, so be careful toy leakers).
Remember when MSW spoiled all the Reylo scenes in the Last Jedi? Oh wait... *checks notes* they didn't report on... any of them?
Remember also how they had no idea about Dark Rey, or Palpatine, and seem to conveniently forgotten half of the cast this time around SO FUNNY how that happens.
Not that I believe MSW but I like this new update from them: "If this rumor is accurate in the way I've heard it described, it sets the tone of Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker hard and fast. This movie is about saving Ben Solo and bringing Rey into the fold."
So, they’ve gone from “there’s something between them, but it’s not love” for tlj (which was wrong, by the way lol there’s totally love between them if you’re not looking to miss it), to she’s gonna kill him, to he’s gonna try to kill her, to she’s going to save him and also become a part of his family? Sounds like backtracking after the latest comic got released and it was revealed that Ben was, indeed, abused by Snoke (WHOEVER COULD HAVE SEEN THAT COMING, Oh wait. The entirety of the Reylo fandom).
The idea or the “leak” that has Ben personally telling Rey that she is a Palpatine after what he said in TLJ is so stupid and nonsensical. Like if Kylo really wanted her by his side in TLJ then he should have said that her heritage is of the Sith or the Dark Side and that’s what comvinces her to follow that “destiny” or something. JJ did said that IX is not gonna retcon what happened in TLJ so I find this leaks hard to believe but who knows what the hell happens in IX. Anything can happen.
It’s nonsensical to believe that any dialogue at all has made its way out lol. Set descriptions, I could get. But actual dialogue? LOL GTFO. But you’re right, how much more convincing would it be to be all “YOU’RE EVIL, JUST LIKE ME! LET’S BE EVIL TOGETHER!” I mean, that’d be a conversation I’d wanna try first lol.
MSW: “...I do seem to remember first hearing of the flashback sequence [Leia and Luke training] and it being a secret location within Pinewood Studios itself.” A ‘secret location’?! If it was so “secretive” then how the fuck do you know about this?! Also how the hell do you know the context of the scene already when we know they are still editing the film and the script was too guarded?! How the hell do you know what the characters are talking about?! 
All of the above, and honestly, how much do they really have of Carrie? I know some resistance scenes were cut out with her, and maybe some Maz stuff, but training Rey? When she herself didn’t want to train to be a Jedi? Really??? Iirc, Luke offered to train her and she was like nah? I’ll have to check on that. Leia’s connection with the Force has always been instinctual in the movies, so... It’s more believable that 3PO could train her lol what with all the shit he’s seen/helping her read the Jedi texts. Yeah, super secret, SO SECRET that random dude bros on the iternet found out about it!!!
It's funny how half the fandom thinks Rey is Luke's daughter because of MSW and no one is paying attention to to the fact that Disney/Lucasfilm have been defending Rey Nobody *and* they have allowed multiple people from the cast and crew to joke about Rey and Kylo being sexually attracted to one another. And then there is John Williams who shows Reylo scenes on the screen when he performs Han and Leia's love theme live in front of thousands of attendees who aren't even into shipping, lol.
Lol people still believe that? Man, it’s 2019. Reylo is real.
Do you think it's possible for Ben to have a convincing redemption if he he were to bring Palpatine back? I was already a bit disappointed that the Sithtroopers respond to him and the Knights of Ren but if he intentionally brings Sheev back it just seems like it'll be more difficult to convince the audience that he's worthy of redemption? I would like this movie to focus on him making good decisions for once, instead of bad ones until a last minute good one like Vader.
There’s nothing that’s going to happen to the Emperor that’s going to happen by accident. Period. He’s had plans working in the background the entire time, so if he comes back, it’s because he wants to come back, not because some accident on Ben’s part made it happen. Honestly, don’t pay attention to leaks that are basically rephrasing box text that says “yeah, kylo should be the most powerful person in the galaxy, but really he’s just fucking around like always, looking for answers to Force questions when he should be focusing on taking over the galaxy” which says to me that he never really did want to take over the galaxy. At all. He has it all, literally, and he’s still not finding what he wants. Which means he still has some exploring to do. Makes sense to me given how sad he looked at the end ot TLJ. These “leaks” also don’t really take into account that we’ve seen Kylo on that desert planet, like why is he there? What’s going on? Honestly, we know a whole lot of nothing about this movie and I’m sure the “leaks” will shift (again, just like they did last time) once the actual trailer gets dropped. Try not to worry about it :)
Hey so I'm kinda confused right now about some supposed "leaks"? Apparently its been "confirmed" by Lucasfilms that Kylo himself is resurrecting Palpatine? I saw some Reylos on twitter saying that Kylo was going to uncover secrets of the dark side and that it would lead to Palps being resurrected. I don't really keep up with leaks or extra material like comics so I'm kinda lost here. Do you know any thing about this? It just doesn't make sense to me why Kylo would do any of what was said?
It absolutely was not confirmed that he brings back palpatine, some box text on the back of his black series figure says, “As Supreme Leader of the First Order, Kylo Ren wields more power than ever before. Nevertheless, Ren continues to search for secrets of the Force from the depths of the dark side.” So, secrets from the Force, doesn’t say shit about palpatine but they’re jumping to conclusions because it “confirms” (in their mind) recent “leaks” (which I actually think are rephrased speculation based on TOY leaks) that speculate he’s looking for Palpatine. Why he’d trade one asshole master for another is beyond me given that he wanted to burn it all down at the end of TLJ. I’m gonna wait till I see the trailer/read more comics/official sources of info, before bothering with this sort of thing. These “leakers” didn’t say shit about Palps returning before his laugh at the end of the first teaser, so they didn’t know shit about it and are only speculating NOW. The only person I saw predict Palp’s return was Wayward Jedi, which was speculation proven to be right.
Cheers all!
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su-angelvicioso · 5 years ago
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Do you have any hcs on Maria if she had a sister who was turned along with her? (fic ideas) OR: Maria x Victoria !!
I’ve never thought too much about María having a sibling before, I mean the idea crossed my mind but I’ve never went into detail on it so thank you anon for asking me this!! 💖
-María had an older sister named Malinalli who she cared deeply for. María adored her sister as humans and she always followed her around and envied her, much to her sister’s discontent.
-She’s extremely protective of her and vice versa as they felt they only had each other in the harsh world they lived in
-María had been following her sister one day when she saw her getting attacked by a vampire. She tried to intervene but it was already too late. Left alone to fend for herself María tried to escape somewhere but she only got as far as the vampire allowed her to, playing some sick game with her.
(I’m going with a past headcanon that María had been changed to fight but now I’m adding a sister and combining it with another headcanon of how she was changed)
-After they were changed they were separated, they fought tooth and nail to get back to each other but it was never enough, eventually the leader got tired of their disruptions and ordered María to be separated even further. Casting her away beliving her to be more useless of the two. However he kept her alive to use as leverage against her sister.
-María was kept away in horrible conditions with a few of the leaders guard. She’d tried to escape many many times but she was always spotted and brought back and beat back into submission.
-Eventually someone from what would eventually be Maria’s immortal family had been in the shadows witnessing all of this and when thigns took a turn for the worse he gathered the rest and killed the guards, taking María with him.
-María did not trust them at first believing them to be all the same and sometimes even lashed out at them, but they remained patient and accommodating, especially Javíer (her immortal love) she constantly demanded they take her to her sister.
-So they trained her, gathered themselves, and took over the leaders army. María was elated to reunite with her sister but her sister was wary of the people that her baby sister had brought with her. She seemed, different and it always bothered María on a deeper level. Malinalli took even longer to warm up to them but she did a little... eventually.
-When Maria’s new found family were ambushed, Malinalli was the last one die, the enemies had made it slow and gruesome because they knew María had been watching somewhere, even if they couldn’t find her. She’d died protecting María of course and María still blames herself for her death to this day.
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María x Victoria 💋🔥
Okay so María x Victoria? I kinda like it. I’m down with two powerful females giving everyone a run for their money. Victoria meets María and is absolutely fascinated with her (I mean who wouldn’t be right? She’s a goddes Lol) María however is on edge but... attracted?? To this red-head intruder?? They have some conversations here and there Victoria learns a lot from María and her playful but conquering ways and María even learns a bit from Victoria’s supreme evasiveness. They spend more time together and they’re both like, caught off guard by the feelings they begin to have. They dance around each other for a while before they finally admit it to themselves and to each other. They run away and live life on a little bit of the wild side doing whatever they want. María feeling as if she’d been freed of some weight that had been holding her down for far too long..
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greyjedireylo · 5 years ago
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An anti in a Reylo hat, crawling out of the gutter into your inbox: .....They’re going to market Kylo as the Evil Supreme Leader. There’s no going back he’s too far gone
it’s not even the how-do-you-do-fellow-reylos antis that frustrate me, I expect that of them at this point lmao, it’s that there were a lot of genuine reylo shippers spreading this around for the last year--not just in my inbox and not just on anon. 
just like incessant lecturing about how we all needed to brace ourselves for Big Bad Masked Supreme Leader Kylo RenTM marketing, and I’ve been sitting here this whole time saying ‘lmao I’ve been through this rodeo once before and that’s not going to happen.’ and the thing that kills me is that most of them have also been through this rodeo before?? but they fell prey to their own insecurities/anti gaslighting/whatever AGAIN and it’s just like...the tone they’ve taken with their negativity that bothers me. like they’re the enlightened ones for being cynical and having low expectations of an optimistic children’s space fairy tale. they’re just like...a real life example of ‘if you only believe in the sun when you can see it, you’ll never make it through the night.’ lol like??? it’s really easy to now be like ‘bendemption here we come!!!!’ when the marketing is here in front of your face, but six months or a year ago they were going around spreading cynicism like wildfire and talking over people like me who were like ‘they’re going to market him as conflicted and go hard on the woobie, as they ALWAYS DO.’
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kylo-ren-writes · 6 years ago
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Pairing: Kylo Ren x Reader
Request: anon requested:
“Hello! I was wondering if I could request a fic where the reader is with the Resistance and she has a force connection with Kylo and they start to have a forbidden relationship but she ends up joining The First Order? Thanks!”
Warnings: a little fluff.
Tag List: @beautifulbows924 @kuzmina-rus @celestiaelisia
A/N: hey guys, so here’s my first upload in a few days. I’m so sorry for being so weird lately, I was just going through a... mental thing, lol. But I hope you enjoy this request and I hope the person that requested it does too! (Gif not mine!)
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The first time you had connected with Kylo Ren through the force had been a terrifying experience. It occurred a few months after the battle on Crait and when he was the newly crowned Supreme Leader of the First Order.
You were in your room, sitting on your bed when you had suddenly felt a dark presence around you. The room felt heavier and colder, and you looked up, nearly jumping out of your skin when you made eye contact with the famous Kylo Ren.
Kylo had looked just as shocked as you did, but he did nothing to try and harm you, you supposed he was more curious than threatened. But not you. You scrambled as far away from him as you could get, falling off of your bed as you backed up into the wall farthest from him. But the farthest from him was never far enough. He looked at you curiously, raising one of his dark brows, far more relaxed than you obviously were.
A force connection was already something he had experienced with the scavenger, but she had cut it off. Now, he found it particularly interesting that the force was connecting him with someone else. Although, this someone else, you, was fairly hostile. You glared at him, even through your fear, and spat angry things at him. Kylo only stared at you, more amused than anything that someone so much smaller than him could be so hateful.
You had only stopped your spew of negativity towards him when you noticed his amused smile, glaring at the smirk that played over his face, wondering why he wasn’t trying to hurt you or kill you. He was the Kylo Ren, a murderer, a monster, a jedi killer... wasn’t he?
That one tiny shred of doubt that you had was enough to push yourself off of the wall and take a few curious steps towards him. He was sitting on your bed, the same place he had been when you had looked up, feeling his presence from before. He only watched you as you carefully walked closer to him, your curiosity outweighing your fear. You could tell something was off, that he wasn’t really “here,” even though his broad figure looked pretty solid.
“What is this?” You had asked, as you narrowed your brows, trying to turn those gears in your head.
Kylo had to lift his gaze the closer you got, something he hadn’t had to do since Snoke had sat in his throne. “The force,” he had answered simply, a ruse to get you to ask more questions.
It worked. “The force? It’s doing... this?” You asked, tilting your head.
“The force is connecting you and I,” he had supplied, only causing you to frown.
“Connecting us? You stopped in front of him a few feet away, not wanting to get any closer. “Why?”
“Who knows...” he trailed off cryptically.
“It seems like you do,” you had glared at him again. He was suspiciously knowledgeable about it.
Kylo tilted his head. “I don’t... at least not anything that would be deemed important to this particular situation.” And Kylo really hadn’t. The last and only force connection he had had with someone, had been initiated allegedly by Snoke. As far as he knew, no one powerful enough to do it again was alive. This had to be something done by the force itself. It was bringing you and him together.
“Well... let’s hope this is the only time it happens, then.” You still glared at him, waiting for him to somehow go away.
Kylo smirked, knowing for a fact that this would not be the last time the two of you would connect. “Right.” But he kept quiet.
You had only stared at him, waiting for him to go. And when he finally had, you breathed again. It had bothered you for the rest of that day and after, but you hadn’t told anyone and eventually you had forgotten about it. Until it happened again. The second time had been even worse than the first, because Kylo Ren had been completely bare, not a single piece of fabric clothing his skin. He had shamelessly gazed down at you, you thankfully being fully clothed. You yelled at him and called him some more particularly unkind things until he had eventually disappeared again, leaving with a chuckle. Your face was as red as a tomato and you were flustered, not entirely believing that you had just seen Kylo Ren naked. He hadn’t even cared!
By the third time he had showed up, you were starting to grow used to him and his dark, heavy energy surrounding you. He had been fully clothed that time, thank the maker, but now you were even more curious. He had to be doing this, wasn’t he?
“Are you sure you’re not doing this?” You had asked, crossing your arms over your chest. You were alone in a corridor, on your way to the dining hall.
He raised a brow. “You think I want you seeing me naked?” He had asked instead, a smile dancing on his full lips.
You frowned at him, although not with hostility. “I’m pretty sure you didn’t mind it,” you pointed out, remembering how unbothered he had seemed.
Kylo chuckled, shrugging. “You have a point... but, I’m not doing this,” he assured.
You nodded, strangely believing him even though you had no reason to. But then you suddenly wondered if he could see where you were, considering you couldn’t see his surroundings. “Can you see my surroundings?” You asked, looking around yourself.
“No. It doesn’t work like that, the other person only shows up in your environment,” he supplied. You nodded in understanding, a little relieved. It wouldn’t be good if he somehow figured out where the Resitance was hiding because of you.
Surprisingly, this force connection had not been hostile in the slightest, and when it ended, you almost felt a little disappointed. But you didn’t have to wait long for the next one to occur, and the next one after that, and the next, next one after all those ones. The more the force connected the two of you, the more you grew comfortable with Kylo Ren and him with you. You grew closer and closer with him until an unlikely friendship turned into something more. By then, you had lost count on how many times you had connected with him. You only knew that the tension between the two of you was thick and seeing him made you want things you had barely wanted before.
Your first kiss had been soft and sweet, and Kylo had pulled you close to him, his touch feeling so real even though he was so incredibly far away. You had eagerly kissed him, running your hands up his chest and over his shoulders, tangling your fingers into his thick, dark hair. And when you had accidentally tugged on his locks, he moaned into your mouth, it sounding heavenly to your ears.
Kissing was always the best part when the two of you connected and always left you desiring more. But these kinds of relationships were forbidden. He was the enemy, the leader of the First Order. You were a Resistance member and could easily get in trouble for fraternizing with him. However, the more your secret relationship went on, the more you felt conflicted about staying with the Resistance.
It wasn’t that you necessarily wanted to leave, you liked the Resistance and wholeheartedly believed in its cause. But the idea of being with Kylo Ren, the Real Kylo Ren and not the one that showed up through the force connections, was tempting. And Kylo was almost tempting you on purpose, withholding from doing anything too intimate with you because he wanted you to be physically with him and not just through the force. You knew how unfair it was but if you weren’t thinking about it. You wanted to be with him and if that meant leaving the Resistance to join the First Order...
You sat in your bed, contemplating what you were going to do. You felt guilty that you were so willing to leave the Resistance for its enemy, for the First Order. But it wasn’t fair that the force had connected you two. It wasn’t fair that you couldn’t be with him because he was Kylo Ren or because he was the Supreme Leader of the First Order, or because he was just... bad. It wasn’t fair.
Right at that moment, you felt that dark energy of Kylo’s that you had grown so used to throughout your room. You looked beside you and there he was, lying down on his back, looking up at you. You smiled at him and lied down beside him, curling up against him. Kylo turned onto his side and wrapped his strong arms around you, pressing you into his bare chest. You wrapped an arm around his waist and breathed in his scent. He smelled clean, like he had just taken a shower, and he probably had.
“What’s wrong?” Came Kylo’s deep voice, startling you. He rubbed your back and you relaxed back into him.
You shrugged. “I was just... thinking.”
“About?” He nuzzled his nose into your hair.
You paused and sighed. “What would happen... if...” you trailed off, not sure if you should ask. If you asked then that meant you were probably going to leave.
Kylo shifted and moved his face away to look down at you. “If what?” He frowned.
“If...” you took a deep breath. “If I... left the... Resistance and... came to the First Order?”
Kylo froze and you looked up at him, seeing a small smile lift up the corners of his mouth. “You want to leave the Resistance... and come here?” He asked, unbelieving.
You shrugged. “Maybe... I don’t know... I just... I feel bad because... you know.”
Kylo stroked your hair and pressed a kiss to your forehead. “I know,” he mumbled. “I know.” He pulled his lips away and looked at you. “If you don’t want to leave... I would understand. As much as I want you here with me, I would understand.” He pressed another kiss to your forehead and nuzzled your face.
Smiling, you leaned up to kiss his cheek. “I... I want to, I do. But, I want to know, what would happen if I came to you?”
Kylo smiled. “I would take you in, not as a prisoner, and you would be by my side.”
You raised a brow, smiling. “By your side?”
“Yes. I would take care of you-“
“Take care of me?” You cut him off, giggling.
Kylo rolled his eyes. “You know what I mean. Protect you, love you, care for you.” He would have sounded annoyed to you if you didn’t know him so well now.
You pressed another kiss to his cheek but before you could pull away, Kylo captured your lips in a kiss, kissing you sweetly. He placed a hand on the back of your neck, kissing you harder. When he pulled away, leaving you gasping for air, he looked at you longingly. You knew what he wanted to say, he wanted to ask you to join him, to come to the First Order for him. But he wasn’t going to ask, he wanted you to come on your own.
Instead, you smiled brightly at him and placed a hand on the side of his face. “I’ll be there soon,” you whispered, kissing him briefly before pulling away. Kylo smiled, but before he could say anything, something else grabbed his attention and he looked away, the disturbance also ending the force connection.
When he was gone, you sighed, but understood. Someone had probably needed him, it had happened many times before. You just hoped he would be expecting you when you arrived.
Getting up quickly from your bed, you looked around the room, deciding if you needed to take anything. You didn’t really have any personal items, or none that you were attached to. You figured you didn’t need to bring clothes, you would probably be told to discard them anyway because they weren’t First Order clothing. But you did slip on your boots before you left and your jacket, sneaking out of your room and down the corridor. You were going to the hangar bay, a plan to steal an X-wing floating through your mind. It was a simple plan that could easily go wrong, but you had played it out in your mind before, back when you started to entertain the idea of joining the First Order, and you knew when hardly anyone would be there, which would make the process easier.
Quietly jogging into the hangar bay, there were only a handful of people around where you were, like you predicted, and you stealthily made your way over to an X-wing farther off that if anyone noticed you, then it would buy you time to get in and take off. You thankfully knew the basics of flying, thanks to a few friends that were pilots, so you knew what to do when you reached the ship, climbing up it and getting inside. You still hadn’t been noticed and you tried to breathe as your heart beat frantically inside your chest. If you got caught, you would be in big trouble.
Starting up the X-wing, you got it going as fast as you could, the ship beginning to attract a little attention. But it wasn’t long before it began to move, and before anyone could do anything, you took off, taking the X-wing and leaving the hangar bay. Since there was hardly anyone in the hangar, there wasn’t much they could do by the time you were in the planets atmosphere and then space.
You sighed in relief, thankful that you hadn’t been stopped. A feeling of giddiness overcame you now that the reality of what you were doing sunk in. It would only take a few hours for you to get to Kylo, and you hurriedly punched in the coordinates to where you knew the First Order fleet to be from numerous meetings you had attended. You also felt guilty though, knowing the Resistance had trusted you with that information, only for you to steal an X-wing and use it to go to their enemy. But you pushed that guilt aside, you had to, and put the ship in hyperspace, sitting back in your seat for a couple hours.
Taking the ship out of hyperspace, a few hours later, you saw the large ship of the Finalizer come into view, surrounded by some other ships varying in different sizes around it. When you got close enough, you no longer had control over the X-wing, knowing that whoever had spotted you was doing it. You felt nervous, once again hoping that Kylo was awaiting you. If he wasn’t, he might not even know that you had arrived. Or maybe you would be taken as prisoner and he would never know, instead thinking that you had abandoned him or weren’t coming. But all of that sounded silly, because even if they took you prisoner without his knowledge, you still had your force connection. He could find you easily.
Your (stolen) ship entered the Finalizer, easily landing in its large hangar bay. All the various stormtroopers and officers moving around made you even more nervous. The hangar was so busy, and you were so noticeable considering what you were sitting in. A Resistance ship in the First Order’s hangar bay wasn’t an everyday thing to occur or see.
However, as you looked around, jumping when the ship opened above you automatically, you felt your anxiety lessen, feeling that familiar energy around you. Quickly looking around, there stood Kylo, a couple meters from your ship, flanked by a few stormtroopers. A couple more approached the ship and you stood up, carefully getting out as you tried keeping your gaze on the dark clothed man so close yet still so far from you.
It felt incredibly different knowing that he was real, physically. It made you even more nervous to see him, especially when the expression on his face held nothing. Was he not happy to see you?
When your feet touched the floor, the two stormtroopers stood on either side of you and held your arms, guiding you up to Kylo. You were confused, wondering why he was treating you like... a prisoner? No, he had said you wouldn’t be one, right? And you hadn’t been cuffed or harshly handled. But you suddenly weren’t so sure, because as you approached him, he turned around with not so much as a glance your way as the stormtroopers guided you after him, leaving the hangar bay as Kylo took you to who knows where. You were taken down many hallways, turning down many corners, until finally you seemed to have reached your destination. The three stormtroopers flanking Kylo left and Kylo punched a code into a blastdoor, it opening and him stepping aside for the stormtroopers to escort you inside.
The room was large, containing a seating area and other various furniture, including a kitchen. There was a hallway to your left that had other doors down it, and the whole room itself was dim. You looked back over at the blastdoor when you heard it close, having not noticed that the stormtroopers had left and now it was just you and Kylo. You stared at him, feeling a little uneasy. He seemed colder in person.
Kylo looked over your figure and slowly strided over to you, his gaze only flickering up to your face when he was right in front of you. He smiled at you and the familiarity of it made you relax. He stepped closer, wrapping his arms around you tightly and pressing you against him. You gasped but smiled, and wrapped your arms around his waist.
“You’re here,” he breathed as he buried his face into the crook of your neck.
“I’m here,” you confirmed, bringing one of your hands up to his hair, threading your fingers through it. He felt different against you, more real than he had through the force, and you knew that you had made the right decision.
Kylo lifted you up against him and pulled his face away, looking at you as if he couldn’t believe you were really here. He carried you over to one of the cushioned chairs and sat down, sitting you on his lap. “I’m sorry that I had to be so cold towards you. You were already getting enough attention and you are nobodies business but mine,” he almost growled.
You giggled and wrapped your arms around his neck as he pulled you closer to him. “I have to admit, I was a little nervous...”
Kylo frowned. “I know. I’m sorry,” he apologized, pressing a kiss to your forehead. His lips felt even softer against your skin now that they were real.
“It’s okay,” you whispered. “I’m just happy that I’m here now... with you.” You smiled up at him, leaning up to kiss his lips. Kylo kissed you back, eagerly, and pressed you as close to him as he could. He was warm against you and the kiss felt even more incredible than it had before. It was like the force had dulled him to you, not being able to feel him properly. But now that you were touching him and kissing him in person, you were getting the full affect. You were getting him, all of him.
Kylo kissed you deeply and almost sloppily, his lips moving against yours quickly. Yours mirrored his and it wasn’t long before you both had to pull away to get some air. You panted against him and caught his gaze, smiling sweetly up at him.
“I’m so fucking happy that you’re here,” he whispered, pecking your lips.
“Me too,” you whispered back, placing a hand on the side of his face. You grazed your thumb over his scar, stroking his cheek.
“And now that you’re here,” he began in a higher volume, “We can do... other things,” he smirked, smiling at you suggestively.
You laughed, leaning your forehead against his shoulder. When you looked back up at him, you nodded and leaned in closer to him. “Can we... do these “other things” now?” You asked, suddenly feeling aroused.
Kylo smirked and kissed your lips briefly before quickly standing up with you still in his hold. You giggled at his eagerness and wrapped your legs around his waist, allowing him to carry you to what you assumed was going to be his bedroom.
The two of you kissed along the way, you running your fingers through his hair and him holding onto your thighs as he rubbed small circles into them with his thumbs.
All you could feel was happiness and not an ounce of regret or guilt for what you had done. You loved Kylo, more than anything now, and he was no longer that monster that you use to fear but rather the man you now adored. And he loved you too, if that wasn’t evident enough with how he handled and treated you, being so gentle and sweet, something that he naturally wasn’t good at. But he tried extra hard when it came to you, not wanting to turn you away from him or hurt you.
When Kylo carried you into his bedroom, he carefully set you down onto his bed, confirming your thoughts about his bedroom. He quickly covered you with his large body, pressing you down onto his bed. He leaned his face down to continue kissing you, but you placed a hand on his chest, halting him. Kylo narrowed his dark brows, confused.
You smiled up at him. “I love you,” you whispered for the first time, your cheeks heating up.
Kylo practically grinned, the expression beautiful on his face. “I love you, too,” he said back, then pressed his lips against yours. You couldn’t help but smile as you kissed him, feeling how happy your heart was. You loved this man so much.
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randomnameless · 4 months ago
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A Master’s Thesis for a university no less
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Yep, I’ve seen that!
at least that people got some dedication, I nearly died when I wrote mine but it wasn’t for shitposting so maybe that made it even more tedious lol
But I’d say, how can you even write a Thesis about something as empty as Fodlan? I think the writer mentionned how Supreme Leader didn’t attack civilians but... while we don’t see her do it, Ashe mentions they’re starving, Baldo’n’Waldi must come from somewhere (the experiments started in Remire, before the War, but obviously to be used for said war in, basically, Supreme Leader’s maternal territories!) and I guess the religious people fleeing the Empire or not bothering to send letters to their friends who don’t hear about them anymore since the war started must have been busy Zumba’ing with Rhea in the 5 stars Enbarr resort.
As someone from SPE (!) mentionned, the Fodlan games take explicit care not to have anyone seriously challenge her beliefs of criticise her, or give spotlight to her main, self-perceived, nemesis who... well, is either fridged, exists off-screen or gives infodumps before dying.
Which makes any discussion about a “Just War” completely moot - Watsonian wise, especially if you take Fodlan as this entity functionning under the Crust System - same, Doylist wise, with any comparisons with real world Conventions (iirc OP mentionned that one of they juries asked if taking a dragon prisoner could be considered a war crime or something like that lol) because, hey, it’s a video game basically centered around a gameplay mechanic of depleting a red unit’s HP bar by hitting them with a weapon.
This is basically a really good shitpost which shows a lot of dedication - and that’s the kind of stuff fandom thrives for (remember zigludo chan sama senpai’s wiki page?) !
but as a serious/discourse/meta piece...
It’s basically the same redshit 10k words, with a bit more formatting and no word limit.
I mean, I used the search engine for “nabatean” and found nothing, and I think you can’t valably discuss Supreme Leader’s motives, ignoring this 
“You are a child of the goddess. You must not be allowed power over the people!“
part of her reasoning to fight against the Church.
Not wanting to give that chamber pot any credit, but if they sprout heinous arguments to support their fave, imo, it’s basically because even the members of that hellpit noticed Supreme Leader’s, uh, fondness for Nabateans as a species, and since she can’t do anything BaD or be wrong, it means the species are BaD.
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Bro your writing is AMAZING!! I’d like to request if that’s cool with you? Maybe something like you’re a praetorian guard thats friends with kylo, but he doesn’t know you’re a guard (bc of the whole red theme/masks). Then in the fight scene after snoke dies Rey is fighting you & somehow ur helmet comes off and Rey is about to kill u but kylo saves you & when Rey refuses his offer to rule w him, maybe you take it instead bc u guys have lil crushes on each other?? idk man just a thought.:)
A/N : Thank you for your comment! It really means a lot to hear feedback like this, it’s really inspiring me to keep writing 〔´∇`〕
I…really don’t know where this came from I was meant to work today but I’ve caught a cold or something; so I’ve been resting up today (By that I mean I’ve watched a SHIT ton of Adam Driver films lol). I have spent part of the day writing this. I hope you enjoy it anon!  I am sorry if it’s not up to the usual standard as I said I am a bit ill! ty for your request
Warnings: TLJ Spoilers! Don’t read if you don’t want to be spoiled for The last Jedi.
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The honour of being a praetorian guard was reserved for the most dedicated and elite warriors; you considered it a privilege to be included in this elite group. Dedicating your entire being to the service of Supreme Leader Snoke. It was protocol to be trained in numerous martial art, perhaps the most influential being Akane, in which the imperial royal guard was trained in during the reign of The Emperor.
When you were not on duty, you were either resting or training. You took your training seriously, it was a great stress relief too. You were not sure when you would get the opportunity to train, so when you did you jumped at the chance.
This lead to a walk in with Kylo Ren himself. Ren caught you training in the room that is usually empty at that time of the day. The training room doors opened swiftly, you turned to face the open door. Your face red and your body sweaty, although you did not expect judgement as it is a training room; you are supposed to be sweaty.
“Commander Ren,” You acknowledged his presence, performing the standard First Officer Salute. You knew he was nothing like The Supreme Leader; he was better.
You knew Kylo could defeat The Supreme Leader in a combat of physical strength in mere seconds, but it was The Supreme Leaders mental ability, in particular, his strength in the force, which kept him alive. It was your responsibility to be his physical strength, your duty and your honour.
“At this hour, I normally train in this room,” He observed, his voice monotone through his helmet.
You did not know what to say, “Apologies commander, I can leave if needed”
“I can offer an alternative” He pondered “Spar with me”
You were not in a position to refuse; nor that you wanted to either.
“Yes, Commander Ren” You could not deny you were ecstatic to train with a man who wielded a lightsaber. You saw it as excellent practice, that was it, right? Nothing more.
There were numerous weapons available, you hesitated before you took the spear. Would he guess you were part of the praetorian guard? No, surely not from your choice of picking a spear.
“Let’s begin” He flicked on his erratic saber, the noise surrounding the room.
You were watching him in two ways; firstly, on the skill in which he swung his saber, as well so you could effectively block and parry his attacks. Secondly, which you would not admit to anyone, was you ogling his toned arms, well they were more than toned. Although you had not yet seen his face, you could not help finding yourself attracted to him physically
Likewise, Kylo watched you intently; he saw the strength in your physical form. You were not what he would consider a stereotypical officer to be; what stuck out for him was your individual mind. You were dedicated to The First Order but separated at the same time.
The sparring session ended when Ren knocked the blade out of your grip, it flew to the floor with an almighty thud. You were stunned, it had to be a long time since you were bested in battle.
You were breathing was short and fast, your body sweaty and warm. Ren noticed how the heat had risen to your cheeks; turning them a soft pink. He caught himself staring at you; he pulled away.
“Thank you, Commander Ren, for the opportunity” You saluted him.
“You did well; I’ll see to it that we spar again”.
That was the first time you spared with Kylo Ren and it seemed like so long. Since the discovery and pursuit of the BB8 unit you had been placed at Snoke’s side twenty-four seven, you considered yourself blessed if you got a moment to rest.
The efforts were unsuccessful, and Kylo Ren was at the front of the scrutiny of Emperor Snoke.
“Take off that ridiculous thing off” Snoke whispered, urgently and seriously.
You began to hate how he spoke to Ren; but more so why had you come to idealise a man you don’t really know or understand. But you wanted to, so much.
Praetorian guards were conditioned to react to any unspurred movement in the vicinity of The Supreme Leader. You watched the scene unfold; he had recently returned from his fight with the other force user. Being at the side of Snoke you heard the untold rage, anger and disappointment that he felt.
When Ren adamantly removed his helmet; the Ren you saw was not like the man you use to know. He looked so defeated, his dark hair fell in front of his pale face. You noticed how his right eye was a dark red, bruised and sore. Not to mention the new edition of the sharp scar falling across his eye; although the thin black bandaged covered the majority of it. You were observing Ren as Snoke continued his verbal abuse, your ears clocking back to the current moment when Snoke roared;
“… he split your spirit to the bone. You were unbalanced, bested by a girl who had never held a lightsaber, you failed!”
Kylo reacted, as any individual would. He began to hastily rose to his feet but Snoke was always one step ahead, he released a wave of force lightning which sent Ren smacking the cold ground.
You empathized with his pain immensely; the crimson armour you wore would send sharp electric currents throughout the panels. A necessity to deflect blasters and lightsaber.
The conditioned bodies of the guards reacted the moment Ren rose to his feet, yourself included. You all shifted to a battle stance; your decorated spear pointing towards Ren, the man you admired so much. The base of the spear was the same red as your armour but was decorated with a beautiful silver blade, no doubt made from the finest silver in the galaxy.
The moment Snoke returned to this throne you relaxed, spinning the spear to stand on the ground; the tip peering over your shoulder
The man you saw was not the Kylo you had come to know; although he was unaware that you knew him. He left the room and entered the elevator, you could only imagine what was whizzing through his mind.
Eventually, you were allowed to rest, you returned to your quarters. Shedding off the heavy armour. You stepped into the hot shower, letting the water wash away the intense situation that occurred today. Your mind could not help sympathising with Ren; you found yourself becoming nostalgic on the times you use to spar with him.
“Thank you for the opportunity once again, Commander” You hated being formal, but it was necessary. A few hours before Ren had left a message for you on your transceiver, a request to spar with him again. 
You would not deny yourself the opportunity; you were excited about the experience. The moment you read the message your world brightened ever so sightly.
You and Ren were in the same training room as before, although this time you had not chosen your weapon. You glanced over the display of various tools and devices.
perhaps something different this time? You considered.
“No, the same weapon as last time” He spoke, ah, you had forgotten how to force users can sense the smallest detail of your mind. 
“Yes, Commander” You affirmed, grasping the spear. While you were checking it over, you heard whirs and clicks that you did not recognise. Followed by a thud. You turned your head and for the first time saw the commander without his helmet.
You understood it was more of a statement rather than a need to hide anything he was ashamed of; you thought how you liked his physical features. Especially his hair, you then reminded your thoughts to be quiet.
He already had heard them of course, but he did not tell you that.
You both took the position, standing opposite each other.
“Let’s begin” He unsheathed his saber, and twirled it at the same time.
The training was far more intense than the one before, you had both gotten accustomed to your fighting style. Making it more challenging. As expected Kylo once again bested you in battle, throwing you to the floor, the spear dancing on the floor as it flew from your hand.
He held his gloved hand out to you, you took it gripping it tightly. It was so much…larger than your own. 
“Thank you again, Commander” you wheezed out, trying to look respectable.
You left the shower, finally relaxed and able to sleep for the night. You hoped Kylo Ren also had ease sleeping that night, you imagined he found it difficult to sleep most nights, especially with the responsibility he carried. What followed the next day would continue to prove you wrong.
The reflection of a hissing blue blade bounced off your armour, your mind and body coming to attention the moment it ignited. You watched as it pierced through The Supreme Leader. You stopped breathing for a short second; you faced Snoke and watch the blade be pulled from him, cutting him in half.
Instantaneously you equipped your spear; yourself and the other guards began your assault on the girl and Ren. You could not show resilience, you could not show you did not want to kill the person you admired the most. But you had a duty above all.
Fate had landed you in the position to fight the girl, wielding the blade that killed Snoke. He was fast, although slightly inexperienced but the rage made up for this. The rage seethed through her eyes as her blade hit your spear. You focus was on her, but you observed from the corner of your vision how your fellow guards fell one by one.
This is it you gravely thought. The end of your life was near.
The girl scraped the saber against the floor, the hot sparks bouncing off your armour. The blade swung close to your feet, you instinctually stepped back. Unfortunately not far enough.
As she pulled the blue saber up it ripped through the front of your crimson helmet. Scraping away at the armour, somehow missing the right side of your face.  It obliterated the front of the helmet; leaving a large gaping chunk. Rendering it useless. Nevertheless, you continued to fight back.
Kylo watched as Rey glided through the helmet like it was nothing; the more you moved the more the masked chipped away. 
Eventually, the right side of your face was exposed
It’s her. The thoughts whizzed through Ren’s mind. The one I sparred with.
The right of the helmet continuously chipped off, you got frustrated. Ripping off the rest of your helmet. You could still feel the heat of the saber lingering on the broken armour.
This was when the girl used the moment to her advantage.
You were no stranger to being hit by the force, in the early days of your training you were frequently conditioned to withstand such an intense power. She held out her hand in front of you and your body came to a sudden halt. You knew what was coming.
She forcefully pushed you, sending you flying into the wall very high from the floor; your back violently crashed into it. You felt your armour crack, which spread throughout your chest area. 
Miraculously the armour still proved useful as you fell to the floor with a depressing thud, your spear falling arm length away from you. if it was not for your Armor you would not have survived the fall; although the pain was indescribable. 
Your eyes were begging to close, but you force them open. The impact had flown through your entire being, affecting you in multiple ways. You thought this would be it; she would come to finish you off. You imagined her shoving the lightsaber through your chest, this is how you would die. 
By the grace of the gods, it seemed the girl had forgotten you once you were out of her immediate proximity and focused on your fellow guards. One was holding Ren in a choke, you could see him struggling
She threw her saber to Ren, who in one click of a switch put it through the head of the last guard. 
That’s it, you was the last one.
The girl then turned to you. It appears she would not show you mercy after all, anyway why would she? You served the most powerful and most destructive being in the galaxy; there would be consequences.
Your arm weakly stretched out and gripped your broken spear; although it was not in its prime it was still sharp. A last-minute defence.
Her eyes bolted to you, she saw you reach out and grip your weapon. You could feel her march over to you, her footsteps heavy on the metal floor. Although your senses were blurry, you could tell at the velocity in which she was coming to finish the job.
“Rey” That deep voice, which you had come to admire called out. She ignored it and continued powering towards your defenceless body.
“There is no life left in that one” Your heart sank.
“leave her to die”. Your heart sank even more.
You were not sure if it was due to the intense physical pain that she caused or the intense emotional pain that he had just inflicted. But tears begin to sting your eyes, dripping down your bloody face.
Had Kylo Ren betrayed The First Order? Was he to return from where he came? Anger and confusion surged through your veins, Ren could sense this. Rey thought he was staring at her, but he was staring through her. At you.
Trust me, stay still, do not move. His voice reverberated through your mind.
Calmness washed throughout your body, although this was not the best decision in this moment in time as you felt your body beginning to slip in and out of consciousness. Resulting in you hearing parts of their conversation.
“It’s time to let old things die…We can rule together and bring a new order to the galaxy”
So, he had not betrayed The First Order; not entirely.
“Please, don’t go this way” She begged
‘Your nothing, but not to me” Oh, did he care for her? It seemed like she did
“Join Me” Ah, another stab in the chest.
“Please” He was pleading; you sort of hoped she took his decision. You could imagine the consequences if she did not.
You regained a clearer consciousness when you felt a strange force hitting your body. You forced your sore eyes open; observing Ren and the girl pushing themselves away from one another. The lightsaber hanging in the middle. Momentarily a bright light surrounded the room, both of them flying in opposite directions. The sheer force of the blast rolled you over, knocking you out once again.
By the time you awoke the throne room was somehow worse than before, more specs of fire falling from the ceiling. You looked around the room.
The girl was gone. Perhaps she had offered you mercy or had more important matters to see to. Either way, you were relieved, and very lucky.
Wait, Kylo. His name shot through your mind like a speeder, your eyes desperately searching for him. You could not mistake his broad frame, collapsed on the metal floor, his back facing you. You could not tell if he was breathing, you still had a duty, you had to get closer to him.
You slowly rose to your feet by leaned up onto your knees, continuing onto standing on your right foot and then you left. Your body ached like no pain you had ever known.
You limped over to Kylo; your weight bearing down on your injured left leg. You held onto your side in which the girl cut you, while it was not a deep cut it hurt badly. You could feel your muscles begging for rest. Eventually, after what seemed like far too long you reach Kylo’s body. Your training kicked in; begrudgingly you knelt down next to him. Letting out a groan of pain as you moved next to him,
“Commander Ren,” you called to him as loud as you could, which was actually the sound of whispering.
You hastily removed the armour from your right hand, Flexing your fingers. The soothing air hitting the bloody skin. You placed two fingers on Ren’s neck, feeling for a pulse.
It was there, faint, but there. You sighed. Thank the heavens.
Commander Hux entered the room, his face paler and pastier than usual. The destruction was beyond what he had imagined. He wearily walked over to The Supreme Leader’s split body; he watched The Supreme Leader’s lower half fall to the floor. The thud reverberating throughout the shattered room.
You had not glanced at his corpse once. You did not desire that image burned into your mind for the rest of your days. You were unaware of Hux gazing at you and Ren, you were too focused on making sure The Commander was alive; as a consequence, you were oblivious to Hux maliciously pulling out his pistol.
Kylo awoke with a gasp, his head facing the floor. You instinctively placed your hand on his shoulder, he gazed at your bloody face. 
“Your alive” He gently spoke. Kylo stared at you; he noticed how your bottom lip had a large cut in which the blood around it had dried up. Your eyes bloodshot, your face once perfectly clean was covered with small nicks, bruises and blood. He only imagined how bruised your body would have looked. Ren could tell you were in agony, but admiring you for persevering
Hux placed the pistol back into its holster, sneakily pulling his back coat over it.
“What” Hux was pissed, you had only known General Hux around The Supreme Leader, like a doting child. You had never heard such anger in this voice although you imagined him to expressing it frequently. “Happened”.
“The girl murdered Snoke” He was lying through his teeth, it was necessary for his survival.
“General” You stood hastily, the pain shooting through your body. Hux could tell you were in great pain, he did not care.
“I can corroborate with Commander Ren, what he speaks is the truth”.  You saw Hux’s pale eyes gaze you up and down; no doubt judging you for how defeated you had looked. You would have no motive to lie, you were a guard and nothing more. You saw Hux’s eye observe you with concern. Kylo hastily stood up,
“What happened?” He sturdily asked Hux.
“She took Snoke’s escape craft” Hux spoke, grinding his teeth in anger.
“I know where she is going…get all of our forces down to that Resistance base, let’s finish this” He asserted his authority, without a shadow of a doubt.
“Finish this?” You instantly recognised the threatening tone of Hux’s voice. “who do you think you’re talking to?”
Your aching body reacted instinctively, taking a defensive stance to the side of Ren. Albeit you would be useless without a weapon and not to mention how beaten up your body was. It hurt to lift your limbs so it would be impossible to perform hand-to-hand combat. He did not need you to defend him, but it was more of a symbolic signifier to general Hux. One which Kylo did take notice of.
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After Ren had force strangled Hux and assumed his position as The Supreme Leader you hastily retreated to your chambers, you knew the fight was not over. But you were no use to anyone in this physical condition. You tore off the remains of your crimson Armor, countless panels laying on your once clean floor.
There was no time to take a shower regrettably as you would begin the assault on the rebel base, in which Ren asserted that you would accompany him.
The sound of the door sliding open brought you to attention, you walked out of your private bedroom freshly changed into your First Order uniform; he was standing there, with troopers behind him.
“Leave us,” He commanded the pair, who took watch outside of your chambers.
There was a pause for a short second “I never suspected you were a praetorian guard” he inquired.
“You never asked” You smirked at him, “Besides, I felt best if I kept my identity as a praetorian guard a secret so it would not impact my duties” You muttered, actively lying through your teeth. Since you had met Kylo your entire stance on being a guard had changed, watching Snoke torture him made your blood boil.
“I am still bound by my duty. If you would have me, I want to serve you. Although I feel that was obvious by my actions earlier, I feel it had…value if I say it to you directly” You warmly smiled at him.
He took a step closer to you, your heart leapt for a second.
Ren’s eyes never left yours, moments ago he was betrayed by the one person he believed would join him. Yet here you were, someone who had always been there, diligent, loyal and strong. It made his heart slightly flutter.
“So, you will join me?” He repeated himself, he was so close to you that the personal space was almost none existent.
“You never had to ask, I am always at your side Supreme Leader Ren.”
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empiregalaxy · 7 years ago
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Don’t you love it when people reblog your posts, and then block you so you can’t reply? Love it. *sarcasm*. Either way, I’m going to respond to this whether that user likes it or not. Heads up, a lot of text.
There are so many things wrong with post and I’ve seen it just a few times too many so I needed to react. (And disclaimer: I’m not a Jalsa ‘hater’; I don’t even know what Jalsa is so there.) 
You may not attack Jonsa, but so many people who are pro- Daenerys do, up to the point of calling us ‘delusional’, sending anon hate, and mocking them constantly. Just cause you don’t take part of it, doesn’t mean others don’t. So -yeah- I’m going ot have a problem with that.
“Dany tortured a child.” I presume you’re talking about the wineseller’s daughter here…? In that case, context is everything. What eventually happened to the wineseller’s daughter remains vague. Apart from that, torturing her was never Dany’s idea to start with. Throughout the series, we see her being protective of children and struggling with her ideas of motherhood. The idea to torture the wineseller’s daughter came from Shakaz. And when Dany thinks about the murder of her people - especially Rylona Rhee, a freed woman -, she agrees to Shakaz’s notion. I don’t condone that, I think it’s 100% wrong and I wish Dany acted differently here. But to take this action out of its context - a city besieged from within, while Dany tries to protect her people, amongst whom there are children as well! - in order to proof Dany is a Horrible Person is a strawman argument imo.
Well, I completely disagree with that meta linked. Context? You mean, ‘cool motive, still a war crime.’ I don’t give a shit what motivated Daenerys to torture a child. I don’t care that the city was under seige. Just cause it’s not ‘your idea’ doesn’t mean you don’t hold the power in that situation. Daenerys is a Queen. Shakaz is part of her council. Who holds the influence at the end of the day? Daenerys does. And it’s not ‘vague’ if you know what medieval torture was. Flaying, pulling out teeth, burning, snapping bones. Want a full list? Happy to provide one. I suppose the Wineseller’s daughters don’t count as Daenerys’ ‘people’. Her prior protection of people (and any “context” doesn’t make the wineseller’s daughters less tortured and brutalized. So it’s not a strawman argument at all. 
Is practically an imperialist.” Nope, I don’t agree with this, sorry. There are a lot of racial issues with Dany’s Slaver’s Bay storyline but I think these stem from problems with Martin’s writing rather than Dany’s characterization an sich. There are people who can talk about this way more eloquently than I can but in short I don’t think Dany’s an imperialist and/or has imperialist motives. This post is excellent in explaining why that’s so
I never once talked about the racial undertones of Slaver’s Bay. Never did. I called her an ‘imperalist’ in relation to her wanting to overtake Westeros and imposing herself as ruler of Meereen. I’m just going to quote from a meta I wrote
She uses military forces to take Meereen, Yunkai and Astapor. She’s not simply the Princess Of Dragonstone, but the Queen Of Meereen, a title which has nothing to do with Targaryen legacy, but she creating in some Slaver’s Bay Empire. She used the Unsullied and Second Sons to do so. What Daenerys did does fit the definition of imperalism. (...)
As for imperalism and it being justified, well- you are justified in getting rid of slavery. You are, however not justified in changing a culture to see how you feel fit, you are not justified to execute whoever you feel wronged by, you are not justified to torture children, you are not justified in bringing three weapons of mass destruction into a city with the intent of using them- even if they are your ‘children’. Imperalism gives an appeal- power goes to the mightiest and in the case of Daenerys, someone with more humanity than the slave masters. But it’s not that simple. Any imperalism comes fire, blood and destruction.
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Critics of Daenerys do not just call her an imperalist in relation to Astapor, Yunkai and Meereen. It’s also about Westeros. The Targaryens lost their right to rule when they committed the atrocities under King Aerys II. Back to Aegon The Conquerer, the ‘conquered’ Westeros. But the Baratheons, under Robert- conquered the Targaryens. So it’s technically a Baratheon state. Daenerys wants to change that, and revert it back to the Targaryen way. Changing how things works, who is in charge and who sits on the throne is imperalism. She wants to bring imperalism to Westeros. Therefore, Daenerys is an imperalist and more importantly will continue to be so.
“Called Ned an usurper dog.” Well, eh, it’s kinda logical Dany would think that, no? Eddard was crucial in the downfall of House Targaryen. We, the readers, know Robert’s Rebellion was justified but in Dany’s mind - the mind of a girl who had to flee her homeland, grew up with Viserys and relied on his version of events of what happened when she was just a babe - Eddard is an usurper who contributed in the fall of her House, the murder of her family and the loss of her home. I think accepting what her father has done, acknowledging that dark part of her ancestry is and will be one of the driving forces of Dany’s arc and characterization in the series. She isn’t there yet; she’s still holding onto her idealized version of her family and history. That’s rather ignorant and wrong of her but c’mon, it’s understandable; it’s human. I really don’t understand how you (or anyone for that matter) can fault her for not looking favorable upon Eddard Stark. Why in the seven hells would she, considering she doesn’t know the whole truth about her father’s reign?
Her counsel includes Barristan Selmy, who tried to tell her differently that Ned advocated for her life. She chose to not listen. Next point.
“Dishes out ‘justice’ to the Grand Masters without trial.” Lol, somehow I find this one extra funny. I would totally agree with such a complaint, if we were talking about a real life situation with real life people. However, the world of ASoIaF is not real life; it’s fantasy. A fantasy world where the capital punishment is very much a thing, where the ruler of a city, city state, state, kingdom, et cetera rules supreme, where faux ‘trials’ are in vogue and where the murder of slaves is everyday business. That doesn’t mean you can’t be bothered by the fact Dany ordered the deaths of slave holders and traders but in that case, I would fully expect you to be just as bothered with Arya’s sense of justice, or Jon’s, or basically anyone in the series who kills ‘bad’ people without a trial first. Dany is the Breaker of Chains; she wants to destroy the slave trade and free the people of Slaver’s Bay. For me, especially in the context of ASoIaF, that’s a noble enough goal to justify killing the Grand Masters and it doesn’t make me like Dany any less.
You do know that the grand masters who were nailed to the cross were picked at random? Not by measure of atrocity, or their actions.... she just grouped them all together and at random, chose 163. It is totally not comparable to Arya Stark, a fierce warrior. In the books- she wants to know the names of the Freys responsible. She just doesn’t go on a rampage like Lady Stoneheart does and kill them all. Arya is very specific in who she wants to kill- Daenerys is not. 
“Can’t control her dragons for shit.” Okay, what. A) Literally NOBODY (or at least nobody Dany came in contact with) can at this point. NOBODY. B) Dany regularly reprimands herself for that very fact throughout the series. She even locks up Rhaegal and Viserion, who she considers to be her children* and who are her biggest weapons and the foundation of her power, in order to make sure the people are safe. She constantly berates herself for the murder of Hazea. *I think the fandom really underestimates this fact. The dragons are not just her ‘pets’, they are her children, her salvation, her means of going back home (the very thing she longs for most). C) May I remind you that it’s Quentyn Martell (the poor fool) who lets Rhaegal and Viserion escape at the end of ADwD? D) At the very end of her ADwD arc Dany is actually succeeding in taming Drogon. With only a whip. (Favorite chapter ever.)
Point being: she should have done it sooner. I do get what you are saying about the dragons being her children, but Hazea’s death could have been avoided if Drogon wasn’t roaming around that day. I don’t -hate- Daenerys because of it, I just find it careless on her part. 
6. & 7. I’m going to combine your last two arguments, because they boil down to the same thing: a leader under siege in the world of George R.R. Martin does things like to that in order to survive. A leaders threatens people. A leader takes hostages (hostages that are in Dany’s case well taken care of by the way). And Dany took the children hostage because she wanted to stop the killings. Wow, she’s such a Jerk. Amazing. I sincerely wish Dany didn’t have to do these things but it’s not like she was in a very comfortable, safe position when she made these decisions. Once again for the people in the back: context is everything.
Yes, war and seiges put leaders in a corner. Do they have to be children, though? Just cause she takes care of them well doesn’t change the fact that they are hostages. Just cause she won’t harm them (even though it’s been established she’d torture innocent people)
Accept that not everyone is going to like your ‘fav’. We have valid reasons, and you can’t just scream ‘sexism’.
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The quintessential problem with Claude and the deer is that they should not have been involved in the war at all, or at least not Claude. What does he have to gain participating on it? Nothing, and he makes it even more explicit in azure moon when he dissolves the alliance. He could've pretty easely given the power to Lorenz or Hilda and nope out of there (what he does in silver snow), as it is clear througouht white clouds that he doesn't have as much of an attachtment to Fodlan as he does Almyra. And it isn't like the devs couldn't take the deer studients out during post-TS, when Marianne unless recruited is pressumed dead, and Lorenz unless recruited joins the imperial forces and dies helping the empire.
Outside of the problems with racism and the bigoted tropes related to "savage cultures" the Fodlan games perpetuate, the devs did not know how to use one of their house leaders for the main plot of "church vs empire", and idk if that's because they bit more than they could chew, or if it was intentional taking into account who gets the short end of the stick in both games happens to be mixed and from one of those "savage cultures".
TBH...
It's on the devs for having wanted to add a third lord to their game, but failing to, well, link him to any of those plots.
Supreme Leader's war of unification?
Well, Nopes gave him a part this plot - and yet there's no third choice in this plot : you bend the knee or you die. Nopes' wise, Clout decided (in his route) to bend the knee with his "alliance" that is totally supposed to make Supreme Leader reconsider her desire to roll over Leicester and make it part of Adrestia again!
(Granted, Nopes don't tell us how his plea to stop the war after killing the evil lizard lady will play out and leaves an open ending...)
In Houses, well, he doesn't want Leicester to be flattened, and goes on the offensive (counter offensive?) when Billy pops up with basically what is the plot events of Silver Snow (down to using the same strategy with disguises) with the Gronder Map.
And that addition radically changes... well, everything regarding Claude's relevance : he cannot form an alliance with the Blue Lord or the Kingdom to get rid of the Empire because "plot convenient myopia" and apparently Dimitri BaD enough that he attacks Alliance troops for no reason.
Forget SS, GW (and AM, in a way) is just using plot contrived excuse to... not have an united from to face the Empire. Why? IDK. Each Lord must be the hero of his story, or the unification boner means only one of them can "win" an unified Fodlan i'd guess.
Nabateans and the plot ?
No one gives a fig about that "plot", so it's basically pursuing a side-quest for no payoff.
Now, as @fantasyinvader wrote, Claude's story and journey as one who is ignorant and gets to learn and clear his misconceptions + the background of the land we're living in could have been interesting, doubly so given how Billy is voiceless and cannot play the "protag discovers the world at the same time as the player does" role.
But it has... no payoff.
Much like Rhea's infodump about the World, Relics and Nabateans... Claude reacts to the mention that Billy has a rock for heart, and not about his crest, his shiny bow or the fact that Rhea also had a vested interest in, uh, getting rid of prejudice against people who are perceived as "different" because her family was genocided for that.
Hell, the entire "prejudice" angle from Supreme Leader's war is swept under the rug, so we can have the Deers say nonsense like wanting to rekt Thales for Supreme Leader's sake, while only Flayn and Seteth can hear her "nabateans shouldn't have power over the people"...
There's no parallel drawn in the game about Claude and Rhea's situation - since she's at the center of this subplot - about being perceived as "outsiders" and not being able to do various things from existing to "rule over the people" because of what they are, or even faking their identities and building metaphorical walls between them and the people they're living with because they are afraid of rejection.
Nah, we can't have that, Rhea must be irrelevant to the possible, while also being the biggest scapegoat/dragon of this saga at the same time as a nebulous red herring to sell pots of tea.
Ihthe "fight against prejudice and make people accept each other" angle was that relevant to his route, Claude would have most likely talked or interacted with Dimitri and learnt of his plan to cleanse Duscur's name in his Father's assassination, raised a brow at Petra being a hostage and done something else than give a surprised pikachu face at Rhea's infodumps.
He could have reacted at her reveal that if you might want to live in peace with some people, if those people don't want that and label you as nothing more than fodder or things to be looted, it's not going to work.
And of course, gave a reaction at your second in command (unofficially?)'s reveal that, uh, her house keeps identured Almyran children as war prisoners?
Some people already made some AUs or "what ifs" routes for a proper Claude route and not the nonsense that we got in FE16 where it's basically "I react to the same plot events that happen in the other routes but top it all with a zombie".
The Deers could have been "better introduced" in a plot about getting rid of prejudice, or learning the causes of this prejudice : Marianne was/is hunted because of her blood ties to Maurice - not because what she did, but because what Momo did back then! - Lysithea was treated as a guinea pig and her house rolled over by Adrestia who has a less than rosy views about the "offshoots" that are called Leicester and Faerghus, Lorenz could explain that prejudice, just like piety, are tools used by people whenever they're relevant, like, some people being pissed at foreigners and some who aren't because they make money through international trading like Margrave Edmund does, Hilda justifying her House's animosity towards Almyrans because they lost many people in those pointless skirmishes (maybe a closed ones? Her mom or Uncle or whatever?) which would make Claude realise that "ending prejudice" is a much more difficult quest than, idk, just killing one or two randoms.
The commoner trio might share Claude's views about prejudice and welcoming foreigners, but have more "mundane" worries like being able to have a roof and food to eat, which might be the case of some people in Leicester, or tell us more about Leicester and how it works (give us more insight about the different countries if Fodlan ffs).
Maybe we could have add a Claude who learns and discovers Fodlan, and along the way, starts to love the land as much, if not more, than Almyra and really wanting to protect this land from whatever Supreme Leader's cooking, or becoming an Almyra v.2.
I don't think making Claude the third wheel of the plot was maliciously intentional because of the, uh, implications with RL cultures and Almyra, but more like they didn't know where to put him.
I noticed you wrote the conflict as one that is "the church vs the empire", but I do not really agree - if that was the case, the war would have stopped in VW/AM/SS the second Rhea was caught.
The main conflict is Supreme Leader's war of conquest - with the twist that the devs were really banking on their brilliant idea of making the red emperor the titular waifu of the game that each person/lord/whatever Rhea is must find a way to excuse and/or justify her actions.
With this in mind, AM is basically Dimitri's fall (and rise!) because of his ties to Supreme Leader.
In VW? The game cannot explore too much outside of the Supreme Leader scope so we're left with.. well, what VW was.
Claude cannot go on a journey to discover Fodlan and get rid of his misconceptions... because part of those same misconceptions are used by Supreme Leader to start her war, or the sheer concept of a conquest, aka a nation being rolled over by another is anathema to his, supposed, ideal of wanting people to accept each other despite their differences.
I ranted about it since day 5, but the Nabatean subplot (and Fodlan in general) is accessory to Supreme Leader war, there is no point aka no payoff for learning all of that, because you cannot challenge the one who wants to unify the continent.
As such, Claude cannot deviate too far from this plot - while receiving infodumps about "the lore" - and we end up with third wheel of a bike and characters who, at first and second glance, appear to be irrelevant.
Fodlan ends up unified despite starting as three separate countries, we feel bad for Supreme Leader and mourn her unknown ideals, Rhea is gone and the Agarthans aren't a problem anymore.
the second the devs said leicester was a republic, claude was doomed. Merchant republics are always irrelevent or straight up useless in the FE series!
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randomnameless · 10 months ago
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Are we ever going to get an in-universe explanation as to why Rhea sets a city with civilians still in it on fire at the end of CF, or is it forever going to remain the "devs wrote Rhea doing something evil so the audience wouldn't feel bad about killing the final boss who'd done nothing wrong up to that point, regardless of how grossly out-of-character it is for her to do that" excuse?
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I was typing an answer, switched tabs, and what I already typed disappeared...
Anyways...
Watsonian wise, the game iirc tells us Rhea intends to use the "fiery tiles" as hazards to slow down the BESF's progression to rekt them - and I personally find nice how the devs picked peg knights to act as reinforcments - cementing the "strategy" aspect of the Berning, aka Rhea's own troops are immunte to tile hazards, but the BESF isn't.
Doylist wise, I feel like it was one of the moves the devs pulled out to illustrate how far Rhea fell from... well, what she once was.
It's the culmination of her breakdown, her point of no-return : we came from a Rhea who valued Fodlan and its people more than her own survival and who would refuse to sacrifice anyone to ensure her safety to... a Rhea who lost so much (her remaining family), is PTSD'ing hard and was betrayed by Billy and Humanity "again", she snaps and now will sacrifice Fodlan and its people to get a chance of surviving what she perceives as the second act of the genocide of her species.
Forget the "not feeling bad" aspect of this fight anon, because, at least with the Jp audio, every scene involving Rhea, before this fight when she lost Seteth'n'Flayn, is in Tailtean, or even in this fight laments in her battle quotes, conveys, kuddos to Inoue, anguish, desperation and anger.
The BESF pushes her - during the entire length of this short route - to her breaking point, she breaks (but it's not only a furious/angry breakdown!) and Firdhiad Berning is the consequence.
Imo, even if the gapmoe and the Supreme Court tries to act as if the BESF is "in the right" or wonder what's for dinner, the foes are much more humanised/developed/are mourning on screen that, save for some devoted people, I firmly believe Tru Piss wasn't supposed to be seen as a "Good Route", but more like the Tales games sometimes have a "Bad End" path.
The final close-up on Billy's dead eyes after they lost Nirvana is, imo, telling enough - even if gapmoe and the game mechanics + IS' obsession to sell you Supreme Leader as a S material waifu you can romance sort of killed this intent, since you can get your "and they lived happily ever after" ending and marry Supreme Leader.
Tl;Dr : Tru Piss is written in a way that would make anyone (even on a first PT!) feel bad about the people you're trouncing, from Judith crying about Ignatz'n'Leonie's loss of their future, to Hilda sacrifying herself to save someone against her former nature, aka when it comes to do the "right thing" Hilda will do it even if it costs her life, to Faerghus' desperation to defend themselves at the point of willingly make the ultimate sacrifice and turning into demonic beasts and Dimitri's tender scene with Dedue, or Felix and Rodrigue fighting side by side to defend their land (and dying together) - to ultimately, Rhea losing her mind, breaking down as she learns of her kin's fate and relieving her previous PTSD hard, ultimately telling the player that they betrayed the gremlin living in their head (even if game mechanics means that gremlin is the worst mother in the entire series) and ultimately, herself.
If you're not a first PT, but Tru Piss is your last PT and you know about Rhea'n'Billy's backstories... Well.
I don't like the "you made hit you" rhetoric because it fucking sucks and irl is used by scum, and while I don't think the Firdhiad Berning was made to make Rhea look "evil" so you wouldn't feel bad for rekting her... the game painfully reminds the player, each time, that they are the instigators of this war, they are the agressors attacking people who, in this last map, will do anything to defend themselves.
It's ugly but it's the War the BESF, aka the player in Tru Piss, started/supported.
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randomnameless · 1 year ago
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Well, looks like even a broken clock's right at least twice a day; an edelstan on twitter was pissed a few days ago when they saw that Cyril's Meet the Heroes description described his time “working” for House Goneril as “some odd twists and turns”, pointing out that such vague wording was most likely used due to a combination of 3H not caring about Cyril's backstory and IS needing to sanitize Hilda's image so she can sell better in Heroes.
Hahaha,
It's funny because on SPE some people made memes, and you have angry people in the comments, being angry and basically lying or making up facts to either diminish Cyril's uh, "working conditions" in House Goneril, or try to sweep it under the rug to give some "Rhea BaD" takes again
Like :
(meme where Claude doesn't criticise his allies for keeping slaves, but blame racism on the lady who saved the child slave)
"Faerghus is the most violent country because they killed the emperor and enacted a coup while being backed up by mole people" to talk about that time when Loog got his independance
"Rhea BaD bcs Cyril can't learn how to read if you don't support him with Lysithea" even if he writes in the Post TS regardless of recruiting Lysithea or not
"Claude tries to talk to Cyril out of fighting but Cyril drives to a suicide charge with Rhea's blessing so Rhea BaD" in GW, with the source being, idk, since the person who came with that take never sourced it
"Rhea BaD she used the regicide in Faerghus to get rid of her political enemies" you mean the dude who tried to kill her?
"Supreme Leader wouldn't be able to continue warring if Rhea DeD bcs else she would be invading people and would lose public support" like the Supreme Leader? From the land of MAGA? Lose public support?? If she invades nations to restore Adrestia to its glorious past???
"Cyril never said he wasn't eating well in house Goneril" but the JP line says he was always hungry in PAlmyra and Fodlan before coming to the Monastery...
Anyways, as expected, even if FEH tries to sanitise some of Fe Fodlan's most, uh, contentious points, we will always have discourse because some people just prefer their fanon to canon, and while I can understand them to a degree (look Willy is basically fanon at this point) it's always hilarious to see people refuse to engage or even consider that the game they "love" says X when they prefer Y.
When it comes to, in general, Church related characters or Kingdom related characters, we see a lot of discourse like this popping up because while FE Fodlan shat on them (to an extent, for the Church related characters) FEH has to give them the minimum spotlight they give to other characters of the franchise, so yes, Hilda's popularity most likely is the reason why Cyril in MYH just had some "odd twists and turns" (tfw Begnion Senators aren't as popular :( so Muarim was mentionned to have been a slave) but his voiced lines has him mention he was captured as a "war prisoner"...
Putting everything it adds up and we have : Cyril was captured as a war prisoner when he was 11-12 by the Gonerils, was hungry there, complained about "work being hard" there (when Cyril doesn't complain at all in GM despite the huge workload he has!), and implies to Mercedes to have been mistreated in House Goneril because he was Almyran (which matches Hilda's prejudices in her C support about Almyrans).
Why is Cyril's backstory so "discourse rising" then?
Is it because Rhea BaD cannot rescue a child from slavery from a popular character's family/household? Or because Hilda's laziness and preference to let other people do her chores looks especially wrong if we take into consideration that those "other people doing her chores" at home might be children "kept as prisoner of wars and fed twice per week"? Or because it reflects badly on Claude (in both games) who wants to end discriminations and prejudices by getting rid of the institution that rescued an abused child, while working hand in hand with the family that abused said child based on his origins?
(lol@the "but Faerghus BaD" bonus point in the earlier SPE thread I mention, I don't even understand why it was brought up lol)
Back to your post, it's hilarious how this edelstand was pissed becayse FEH whitewashed Cyril's backstory to maybe sell more Hilda alts, when Pat'n'pals try their hardest (in FE16, Nopes and even FEH!) to "alter the script" to shit on Rhea, Dimitri to make Supreme Leader alt'able.
Maybe there's hope for this twitter/X stan?
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